6:14: I hardly believe my ears. McCain just said we SHOULDN'T spread the wealth around. Yes, let's let those CEO's become billionaires while people in south central LA starve and struggle with crack addiction. They don't need our help, they can lift themselves up by their boostraps if they try.
6:18: John McCain insists that big government is bad. He says big government has never been bigger since the era of "The Great Society." So, we're no longer aspiring to be great? Bad choice of words, if only that.
Aside: Yes, I'm snarky tonight.
6:39: I've been yelling for a while now. I can't BELIEVE McCain wants to validate his campaign's idiotic claims about Obama associating with terrorists by bringing them into this debate. Every outlet has cried foul about how exaggurated and alarmist these claims are. I did like Obama's response--basically, "you guys are being dicks and you should shut up."
6:44: The question was, why would Sarah Palin be a better president than Joe Biden, John. Not whether or not she's your "partner."
6:46: John McCain doesn't think that requiring accountability and oversight in government is going to cost any money. Wow, that's mavricky. He's reached across the reality isle now.
6:48: In case anyone didn't know this already, and you can take my word on this as an engineer with three internships at Hanford, nuclear power plants don't spring up overnight. They take ten years OR LONGER to build and cost lots and lots of money. We don't have the capability to do it immediately. The Alaska natural gas pipeline won't work immediately either, because we don't have a lot of power plants that burn gas. No solution to high oil prices is implementable RIGHT NOW. McCain needs to stop deceiving people, it's mean.
7:01: McCain thinks that if you like Obama's healthcare plan, you must like Canada and England. I think there are plenty of people out there that are fond of Canada and England, if for no other reason than that their accents are cute. Although Canada's healthcare system has many problems, John, England's is ranked among the best in the world. As is Germany's--and universal healthcare doesn't interfere with the profitability of drug makers. Germany's pharmeceutical and medical technology industries are booming.
I can't believe he wanted to use the same tired line of criticism when Obama stomped on it so thoroughly in the last debate, and is doing again.
This Joe guy is really convenient. Is his last name "Sixpack"?
7:05: Senator Government. Yeah, That One. He's not Senator Maverick. Boo.
7:09: John McCain says that any judge supporting Roe v. Wade is not qualified to be in office. I don't want to remind my audience about that whole partisan judge scandal thing that the white house is being investigated about right now, so I'll just say that Obama...should answer the question.
7:12: McCain wants to change the nation's view on abortion. Pro-life people understand that everyone needs to think that abortion should be banned. Speaking as a "pro-abortion" (who calls themself that?) movement member, take a read-through of the first amendment, will you? Also? Only 10% of people in this country believe that abortion should be absolutely illegal. Why does EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM seem to work for the government?
7:21: Did I just hear McCain propose that we deregulate teaching certification? Oh dear god.
7:26: McCain keeps trying to fight Obama on issues they agree on. What the hell is this supposed to accomplish other than the impression that McCain has no idea where his opponent is on these issues?
7:28: McCain's closing statements are so general that Obama could have made the exact same speech and his his demographic nodding. Oh, but there goes the "country first" and "great honor/POWPOWPOW" thing. Does his campaign really run on about 5 catchphrases?
EDIT: A commentator on MSNBC declared the winner of the debate tonight to be Joe the Plumber. Heh.
6:13: I'm really getting tired of this "greed and excess" line. Greed and excess have always existed. It's up to regulators to make sure they don't get out of hand. Obama mentioned AIG a few minutes ago. If the Feds had been paying attention to the loan money, that executive spa trip would never have been allowed to happen in the first place.
6:20: Obama: "We are mortgaging our children's future." Effective line.
6:23: McCain is anti-planetarium.
6:29: There's the overhead projector again. Does McCain not think that making kids interested in science is a good thing? Education standards have gone up; with it the cost of educational equipment.
6:36: McCain mentioned that the last time taxes were raised was when Hoover was in charge. Weren't we talking about the Great Depression earlier?
6:40: I kind of wanted to hear a full answer to that question about entitlements, but I think it's good that Obama's spelling out the tax plans. Surveys show a lot of people still believe mistruths about Obama's tax plan.
6:41: McCain: "It's not that hard to fix social security." Oh yeah? How come nobody's done it yet?
6:44: McCain [On Nuclear Power]: "Senator Obama says it has to be safe...or...something like that. But look..." Whoa, whoa, whoa. Not good John. If you're going to tell the audience what the other guy thinks about the issue, you should probably know. Also, dismissing nuclear safety? A LOT of people in this country are still very uneasy with how safe nuclear power generation is.
6:53: McCain counters Obama's accusation that his healthcare policy will combust employer-based healthcare is to....ignore it. If you ignore it long enough, it goes away, right?
7:07: Obama: we have a moral obligation to help others, if we can successfully convince others that that obligation exists. McCain: Obama doesn't understand the complexity and delicacy of situations like that. We could make things worse, or better. These answers both reflect bad steriotypes of the candidates: Obama is young and niieve, and McCain is old and lacks conviction.
7:18: ZOMGWTFBBQ McCain said Obama was right about stuff!!!!one!eleventy1
7:21: Uh, Senator McCain? I'm not sure that talking to Russia like the country's leadership is a bunch of criminals in need of reform is going to make them like us more.
